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2016 Tiguan crank no start p0087
Aug 6th, 2026 at 5:49pm
 
I need help on how to go about this. I have replaced just about every fuel system part there is lol. I should have used the Picoscope first but instead I am turning to it as a last resort.

Anyway this 2016 Tiguan had low compression on 2 cylinders, low fuel pressure codes and crank no start. I did a timing chain , sent the head to the machine shop and the cpmpression issue dissapeared. I was left with p0087.

VCDS is showing 9-11 bar actual out of 40bar specified. I have replaced the fuel pump module lvfp, hpfp, cam follower, spark plugs, coils ,fuel pressure sensor, inectors. I dont know what else to do.

i tested the selenoid of the hpfp with vcds and it cliks. any ideas on what to check with the picoscope or how to go about it?
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Re: 2016 Tiguan crank no start p0087
Reply #1 - Aug 7th, 2026 at 6:48am
 
Good morning Albi,

There is a lot to unpack here.

For a high pressure fuel system to work properly it must have adequate supply pressure. Have you verified your low pressure fuel supply to the high pressure fuel pump? How much pressure is available to the HPFP? Is it 4.0-7.0 BAR?

According to the internet this system defaults to low pressure which means the regulator solenoid is responsible for increasing fuel pressure when energized.

I seem to remember that even if the high pressure fuel system were disabled most engines will start and run on just the low side fuel pressure alone. They wont run well, but they run. Does this engine start at all?

Is there fuel in the tank?
Is the fuel in the tank actually gasoline?

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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 4:32pm
 
Hi Trevor,

Yes I measured the fuel pressure on the low side before it goes to the hpfp (i connected a mechanical gauge with a T fitting ) and it holds steady at 80-90psi even when i am cranking.

Yes there is fuel in the tank and its gasoline.

This engine doesnt start at all. it cranks but does not start. I took a cam crank correlation capture because I did a timing chain job and i am not confident that I did a good job so I wanted to verify timing. Please let me know if I should change the settings in the capture to get a better capture
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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 5:04pm
 
500ms/div screenshot
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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 6:02pm
 
Omg I am off by a tooth. Look at my 500ms/div sample and look at this known good im uploading now.
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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2026 at 10:17pm
 
What is the distinctive engine code/letters?

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Reply #6 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 1:32am
 
+1 on the engine code and a psdata file please. Also a full engine cycle.

I see 6 gaps and a pull down circuit on your ref and 8 rising on the cam sensor circuit on your capture.
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Re: 2016 Tiguan crank no start p0087
Reply #7 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:35am
 
Albi wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 4:32pm:
Yes I measured the fuel pressure on the low side before it goes to the hpfp (i connected a mechanical gauge with a T fitting ) and it holds steady at 80-90psi even when i am cranking.


This is an excellent start.

Albi wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 4:32pm:
Yes there is fuel in the tank and its gasoline.


I only asked because I've seen it bite good techs in the past.

Albi wrote on Aug 10th, 2026 at 4:32pm:
This engine doesnt start at all. it cranks but does not start. I took a cam crank correlation capture because I did a timing chain job and i am not confident that I did a good job so I wanted to verify timing. Please let me know if I should change the settings in the capture to get a better capture


This is why these forums are here. We'll help you get things sorted.


Here are a few notes on the capture you posted. (2016_Tiguan_Guided_test1_-_Copy.psdata)

Your time on screen is too short.
The 20ms/Div means we only have 2/10ths of a second per page and that's not enough to see whole crank or cam revolutions. Bump your timebase up to 500ms/Div.

Your sample rate is higher than needed but its not hurting you. Changing over to a fixed Sample Rate of 1MS/s will give you enough resolution for these captures while keeping your saved file size manageable.

Its a best practice to label your traces if you're going to post them. In this case I think we can figure it out but when your captures get more complex labels help keep the chaos at bay.

Be careful when making timing decisions with VRS signals. in Reply #3 your CKP screenshot shows the negative signal. In Reply #4 your screen shot shows the positive side of the signal. Keep in mind, on Floating VRS sensors the two traces are a mirror image. This means the top of a tooth on the positive trace correlates to the bottom of the tooth on the negative trace. I attached the VRS_Polarity pic below to help show my point. Most people try to use the positive trace to keep things consistent.

I created a .psdata file you can use as a template to redo your CKP/CMP capture. I labeled the channels, set the time base and sample rate.

Bonus points.
If you use a trigger to start your capture you can guarantee you'll get your crank event all on one screen. I would do a single mode trigger on the rising edge of the crank sensor signal at 2 volts with 5% pre-trigger.

When you save your capture you can keep your file size down by removing any unnecessary pages in the saving process. See Page_trip pic below.

Lastly, you can add up to 5 attachments to your post by clicking the little plus symbol near the word 'Attachments" to the left of your screen. See Pic.
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Reply #8 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:55am
 
Nikk wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 1:32am:
+1 on the engine code and a psdata file please. Also a full engine cycle.

I see 6 gaps and a pull down circuit on your ref and 8 rising on the cam sensor circuit on your capture.


2016 Volkswagen Tiguan 4Motion

* Engine: 2.0L turbo TFSI/TSI
* Engine code: CCTA
* ECU: Bosch MED17.5.2
* Engine ECU part number: 06J 906 027 JP

I tried to upload a longer capture 500ms/div but the website is not accepting it.
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Re: 2016 Tiguan crank no start p0087
Reply #9 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 8:08am
 
Albi wrote on Aug 11th, 2026 at 5:55am:
I tried to upload a longer capture 500ms/div but the website is not accepting it.


There is a 30MB size limit on attachments for the forums. This is why I showed how to trim pages and manage your saved file size.

I am meeting with the web developer in 10 minutes to hammer out a solution so you can upload captures to our drop site again.
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Reply #10 - Aug 11th, 2026 at 12:17pm
 
Trevor Thank you for the Template. For some reason when i create a trigger it doesnt capture anything.

I just did another capture and if you compare it to a known good its way off. After the tooth my capture falls on the short rectangle of the cam signal. On the known good its on the wide.

(im uploading the ps.data file. It is 10315kb and the website is not accepting it)


(EDIT: Changed psdatafile to downloadable version. Trevor Schlientz)
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Reply #11 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 11:14am
 
https://www.dropbox.com/t/qs5hZfs04DscxeEI

I just uploaded my capture to dropbox. Let me know if you can open the link. SHould i tear the engine down again, or this doesnt necessarily show that my timing is off?
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Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 12:37pm
 
File attached.
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Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 12:52pm
 
can't open it.
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Reply #14 - Aug 12th, 2026 at 1:14pm
 
It seems toe forums don't like symbols in the file names. I removed the symbols and now it should work. Try it now.
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