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General repair/non scope
Dec 17^th, 2019 at 7:36am

As I try and detox away from IATN, I hope we here in the Nerdz forums can start posting more non-scope related repair request.
There is no other place I know to get the quality of help we have here. I know we are scope centered, and there are times we should scope when we don’t. At least that’s me.
I think the help that is offered here is top notch and well meaning. No smart asses trying to belittle someone looking to learn.

I guess what I’m saying is, don’t be afraid to post for help, even if you are not using your scope!
But don’t be surprised if Spence asks you to connect your scope to the coffee pot! Cool

Thoughts??

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Brian Haley Autonerdz Administrator Picogroup Offline Posts: 570 White Pass, WA Washington USA Gender:	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #1 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 8:41am I would encourage posting anything repair related here. The PicoGroup General Technical Discussion board is a good place for automotive/light truck and we have diesel, bus and other HD Applications for the HD people.
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Spence LSD Guide Picogroup Offline Posts: 8,025 Jeffersonville Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #2 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 9:12am Brian Haley wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 8:41am: I would encourage posting anything repair related here. The PicoGroup General Technical Discussion board is a good place for automotive/light truck and we have diesel, bus and other HD Applications for the HD people. +1
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Re: General repair/non scope
Reply #3 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 9:13am

Brian Haley wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 8:41am:

I would encourage posting anything repair related here. The PicoGroup General Technical Discussion board is a good place for automotive/light truck and we have diesel, bus and other HD Applications for the HD people.

I agree Brian, I know we "can" post there, I think most of the guys go elsewhere to post non-scope questions and help request.
Hopefully we can get more discussion on these topics. Wink

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Re: General repair/non scope
Reply #4 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 10:43am

This has been discussed before as something leads us to the use of the scope. Derreck did a great group therapy where he explained his methodology he uses when heading into a diagnostic work order.

Just reading through CSIs and Technical discussion can get some great techniques for non scope and scope diagnostic discussion.

Anyways we'll see what happens

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Re: General repair/non scope
Reply #5 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 2:39pm

Spence wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 10:43am:

Anyways we'll see what happens

The reason I am hoping to get more discussion here, is Autonerdz users tend to be more prepared BEFORE asking for help. Rarely does someone say something like " I have a P0303, changed the coils and plugs, still misfires! What do you think it is?"

Most other forums are full of this kind of BS. I think the members here are actually thinkers and doers, not trolls looking for silver bullets.

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Re: General repair/non scope
Reply #6 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 3:26pm

Jamey wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

I have a P0303, changed the coils and plugs, still misfires! What do you think it is?"

It's obviously a bad flux capacitor... Wink

Jamey wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Most other forums are full of this kind of BS. I think the members here are actually thinkers and doers

Completely agree. There may be a slight bias on my part Roll Eyes

, but even entering a random Y/M/M/Code will bring up a TON of either generic or vehicle specific forums of people asking, "I have this code. What does it mean/How do I fix it?"

I think the main difference between the Autonerdz Forums vs. others is that most of our members are looking for the reason a part failed, instead of just slapping new parts on and shipping the vehicle.
Also, those responding to threads here aren't just blurting out answers/guesses like some other forums. They are guiding the OP to the "Ah ha" moment. Having a person learn on their own, (with some guidance and/or nudging) will stay with that person longer than just being told the answer.

Basically, EVERYONE here is both teacher and student. And we are all (I hope) OK with that, and are excited not only to teach, but to learn.

Sorry for the long winded response, but at least I didn't use any super long sentences like a certain Google review... Wink

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Re: General repair/non scope
Reply #7 - Dec 17^th, 2019 at 5:15pm

Jamey wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Spence wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 10:43am:

Anyways we'll see what happens

The reason I am hoping to get more discussion here, is Autonerdz users tend to be more prepared BEFORE asking for help. Rarely does someone say something like " I have a P0303, changed the coils and plugs, still misfires! What do you think it is?"

Most other forums are full of this kind of BS. I think the members here are actually thinkers and doers, not trolls looking for silver bullets.

I enjoy this very much, this is the first automotive forum that i feel when someone asks for help they provide a good amount of info, screenshots, pico files, scan files, diagrams. to help aid better responses.

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Tom Roberts Autonerdz Administrator Picogroup Offline Autonerdz Founder Posts: 8,598 Olympia Washington USA Gender:	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #8 - Dec 18^th, 2019 at 8:07am jayband wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 5:15pm: when someone asks for help they provide a good amount of info, screenshots, pico files, scan files, diagrams. to help aid better responses. That's what serious professional techs do. Most of the others have wandered off when they discovered that they had to work for answers.
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Re: General repair/non scope
Reply #9 - Dec 18^th, 2019 at 9:17am

jayband wrote on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 5:15pm:

when someone asks for help they provide a good amount of info, screenshots, pico files, scan files, diagrams.

To add to that thought, if someone does not have or give some of that info, they will usually provide it if asked.
I have seen so many threads here in which the OP is asked to provide a capture with certain parameters. And after some time (a few hours, a couple days, etc.) the OP has posted the file requested. We understand here (unlike some other forums I've seen) that if someone here is willing to give you help, it is because we want you to learn and succeed, not to put you down or to have bragging rights on who was right.

To make a long story even longer... Wink

The other thing I believe makes this forum stand above others, is that those who help are not only willing to help until a resolution is found, but we are able to find a workaround if someone does not have certain tools. "Oh, you don't have X tool/accessory? Ok, it'll take a little more work, but we can still find an answer."
Most other forums would give up until the OP acquired said tool. "Oh, you don't have a WPS? You need a WPS to fix it." Smiley

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Spence LSD Guide Picogroup Offline Posts: 8,025 Jeffersonville Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #10 - Dec 18^th, 2019 at 3:57pm Seany Mac wrote on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 9:17am: "Oh, you don't have a WPS? You need a WPS to fix it." Can someone explain to me what you use a WPS on to fix anything.
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Logic LSD Guide Picogroup Offline Posts: 4,147 Bentleigh Victoria Australia	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #11 - Dec 18^th, 2019 at 3:58pm Spence wrote on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 3:57pm: Seany Mac wrote on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 9:17am: "Oh, you don't have a WPS? You need a WPS to fix it." Can someone explain to me what you use a WPS on to fix anything. Well Spence I cannot, I have a Peugeot here as you know. I have installed my WPS and the car is still faulting.
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HarleyMike Super Nerd Picogroup Offline Posts: 1,308 Dinwiddie County Virginia USA Gender:	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #12 - Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:06am The WPS is so bad ass, I simply show it to the broken car and it fixes itself. Merry Christmas
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Spence LSD Guide Picogroup Offline Posts: 8,025 Jeffersonville Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: General repair/non scope Reply #13 - Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:33am HarleyMike wrote on Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:06am: The WPS is so bad ass, I simply show it to the broken car and it fixes itself. Could you train me in this. I must of missed that class. HarleyMike wrote on Dec 24^th, 2019 at 8:06am: Merry Christmas Merry Christmas!
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