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Spence LSD Guide Picogroup Offline Posts: 8,025 Jeffersonville Pennsylvania USA Gender:	The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:01pm Thought this one be an interesting video on nitrogen filling of tires. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnWvMleVD0 Grab some popcorn and learn.
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Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires
Reply #1 - Nov 26^th, 2016 at 9:50pm

Spence wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

Thought this one be an interesting video on nitrogen filling of tires. Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnWvMleVD0

Grab some popcorn and learn. Smiley

I have seen that one Spence....and I totally agree with what he is saying and have advised my customers as such for years.

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Reply #2 - Nov 27^th, 2016 at 5:12am

Spence wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

Thought this one be an interesting video on nitrogen filling of tires. Here's the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnWvMleVD0Grab some popcorn and learn.

Very interesting Spence. I have never believed in Nitrogen theory since the being. Now I know why!!!

Around here it is only the major tire chains which push the nitrogen. All the other mom & pop shops never use it. This says a lot in regards to the chains who want you as repeat customers and milk you at the same time!!

As a side note: I really like John's bluntness in his presentation. No holding back how he feel Grin

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Jose aka superskyliner Guru Member Picogroup Offline I'm an Autonerd Posts: 479 95653 California USA Gender:	Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Reply #3 - Nov 27^th, 2016 at 9:10pm I've been running a nitrogen blend in my cars for as long as I can remember. Has worked out great so far
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Matt H Guru Member Picogroup Offline Posts: 297 Japan Japan Gender:	Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Reply #4 - Nov 28^th, 2016 at 1:49am Jose aka superskyliner wrote on Nov 27^th, 2016 at 9:10pm: I've been running a nitrogen blend in my cars for as long as I can remember. Has worked out great so far Me too. I find that 78% works best.
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Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires
Reply #5 - Nov 28^th, 2016 at 3:47am

Abndanger wrote on Nov 27^th, 2016 at 5:12am:

Spence wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

Thought this one be an interesting video on nitrogen filling of tires. Here's the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnWvMleVD0Grab some popcorn and learn.

Very interesting Spence. I have never believed in Nitrogen theory since the being. Now I know why!!!

Around here it is only the major tire chains which push the nitrogen. All the other mom & pop shops never use it. This says a lot in regards to the chains who want you as repeat customers and milk you at the same time!!

As a side note: I really like John's bluntness in his presentation. No holding back how he feel Grin

He is an aussie

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Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires
Reply #6 - Nov 28^th, 2016 at 5:29am

Logic wrote on Nov 28^th, 2016 at 3:47am:

Abndanger wrote on Nov 27^th, 2016 at 5:12am:

Spence wrote on Nov 26^th, 2016 at 6:01pm:

Thought this one be an interesting video on nitrogen filling of tires. Here's the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnWvMleVD0Grab some popcorn and learn.

Very interesting Spence. I have never believed in Nitrogen theory since the being. Now I know why!!!

Around here it is only the major tire chains which push the nitrogen. All the other mom & pop shops never use it. This says a lot in regards to the chains who want you as repeat customers and milk you at the same time!!

As a side note: I really like John's bluntness in his presentation. No holding back how he feel Grin

He is an aussie

That he is.

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Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires
Reply #7 - Nov 28^th, 2016 at 7:35pm

Matt H wrote on Nov 28^th, 2016 at 1:49am:

Jose aka superskyliner wrote on Nov 27^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

I've been running a nitrogen blend in my cars for as long as I can remember. Has worked out great so far

Me too. I find that 78% works best.

I like playing with the oxygen level, I have found that 16% is the best Cheesy

Seems better when the wind is blowing from the North Cool

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busjockey LSD Guide Offline The Diesel Nerd Posts: 3,442 Champaign Illinois USA Gender:	Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Reply #8 - Nov 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am The funny thing is the public believes this horse !!!!!!! Guess that's where this guy comes in to set it straight. Also we have to set the public straight. Good video, thanks for sharing Bob.
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busjockey LSD Guide Offline The Diesel Nerd Posts: 3,442 Champaign Illinois USA Gender:	Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Reply #9 - Nov 29^th, 2016 at 8:42am Opps, Spence shared the video, thanks Spence.
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Spence LSD Guide Picogroup Offline Posts: 8,025 Jeffersonville Pennsylvania USA Gender:	Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Reply #10 - Nov 29^th, 2016 at 5:23pm busjockey wrote on Nov 29^th, 2016 at 8:40am: The funny thing is the public believes this horse !!!!!!! Guess that's where this guy comes in to set it straight. Also we have to set the public straight. Good video, thanks for sharing Bob. Yeah sure give Bob all the credit! Glad you liked it.
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Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires
Reply #12 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 3:28am

Don't all the race car crews use nitrogen in their tires?

His point about molecule size caught my attention. More research would need to be done on that one.
First a molecule can be larger in one dimension but be very thin looking at it from a different angle. R134a and R-404a refrigerants leak like crazy because they are long and skinny, allowing their escape. But measured in their longest dimension are larger than their predecessors.
I have never used nitrogen in my tires,but the lower pressures and smaller leakrate would be important to some.

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Reply #13 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 8:08am

bergref10 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 3:28am:

Don't all the race car crews use nitrogen in their tires?

All... No. A certain percentage yes but more for the dryness of it which can also be had with normal compressed air. I setup road and drag cars. Some of the side walls are so thin they can be seen bubbling if you spray them with soapy water. The belts make them strong not the extra rubber. They like to dissipate heat out the side walls. It is a big reason the air is adjusted just prior to the race.

bergref10 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 3:28am:

His point about molecule size caught my attention. More research would need to be done on that one.
First a molecule can be larger in one dimension but be very thin looking at it from a different angle. R134a and R-404a refrigerants leak like crazy because they are long and skinny, allowing their escape. But measured in their longest dimension are larger than their predecessors.

You are describing compound molecules. Fuel molecules for example are designed in different shapes to slow down the burn hence octane. The O2 and N2 don't really fall into the category.

bergref10 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 3:28am:

I have never used nitrogen in my tires,but the lower pressures and smaller leakrate would be important to some.

I use the compressed air that is dry from our shop system. I normally see less then 1 psi difference between services which can be 3 or 4 months apart.

Just my take on it that's all. Cool

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bergref10 Junior Member Offline I'm an Autonerd Posts: 62 Amish country Pennsylvania USA	Re: The benefits of nitrogen filling tires Reply #14 - Nov 30^th, 2016 at 4:10pm Hi Spence Just googled "compare nitrogen molecule to air molecule", and found an article named. "Are Nitrogen Molecules Really Larger Than Oxygen Molecules?". Doesn't change my decision to come to the same conclusion as yourself, i'am sticking with air at this end. regards John
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