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Feb 4th, 2014 at 12:42am
 
Local Pico dealer called me today for a chat, he said there is a strong rumour Pico may release a 8 channel scope.
Anyone interested in this? me personally
hell yeah


You heard anything Tom?
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Reply #1 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 1:34am
 
autosparky wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 12:42am:
Anyone interested in this?


My SO dealer came and said something like that as well. I told him he was full of crap.
I may be wrong.
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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 4:03am
 
I'd by one just to say I had one  Smiley
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 5:07am
 
I like your way of thinking, Preston.
You are, officially, a "Tool Whore"!
I've been called this also, but I don't know
if I'd buy just to say I had one.
But boy would I be trying to rationalize it!
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Reply #4 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 8:23am
 
Software would probably not be an issue, currently using reference waveforms up to eight channels can be put on one screen.  So, it seems possible.

So does a 212 + 3223 + 4423 = an 8 channel scope? Grin

Don't laugh too hard, I have had all 3 going on few occasions.

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Reply #5 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 10:25am
 
We have a company in Finland that supplies the field with training and equipment. Actually, these guys are the ones that trained me to the status of "automotive electrician", as a sloppy translation.

They also have a few own products, this scope has been in their product range for many, many years:

http://www.hmv-systems.fi/adac3000/

Not that this has got anything to do with the Pico rumour.
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Reply #6 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 5:32pm
 
Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 5:07am:
but I don't know
if I'd buy just to say I had one.


  Well, I would use it too.  I should have clarified that  Smiley
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Reply #7 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 6:34pm
 
I have a 10 channel Piovrusvatpro  Smiley Smiley
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Reply #8 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 8:57pm
 
I wouldn't doubt they might make one, but my bet would be that it would be for the Test & Measurement side, not so much Automotive.   Undecided
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Reply #9 - Feb 4th, 2014 at 11:33pm
 
A complication of double the set of channels would be the display on the screen with eight y axis and eight traces...much bigger and higher resolution screen.

I'm running 19" now on my laptop now......

In saying that I would love to be able to interface with eight or ten channels as opposed to BMWs one..hahahahahah....Master Tech indeed  Grin

I would like 2 x 4 channels if they can be synchronized though the computers time clock, so that they would operate in syncrony.
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Logic wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 11:33pm:
A complication of double the set of channels would be the display on the screen with eight y axis and eight traces...much bigger and higher resolution screen.

I'm running 19" now on my laptop now......


Logic,

Below is an example of what an eight channel Pico capture might look like.  With out going into specifics it is possible to manipulate each channel vertical by a zoom or reduce.  It is also possible to run separate windows. So, I would guess if Pico does build one, screen display will be a minimal issue, if it is an issue at all.

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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 8:47am
 
crackerclicker wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 8:57pm:
but my bet would be that it would be for the Test & Measurement side, not so much Automotive.


We have a winner.   Wink

We have been aware of this one for a few weeks.  We don't always hear of the new test and measurement scopes ahead of launch but this one we did. 

Pico gives distributors advance information on new products as long as they don't spoil the surprise by going public with the information in advance of the launch date.  It's unfortunate that someone entrusted with this information didn't take their responsibility seriously.  It sure wasn't anyone here at Autonerdz.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, we have been given permission to confirm this rumor.

As a test and measurement scope, this one will not be well suited for automotive applications.  It will not have the same protection against short circuits resulting from ground loops nor will it have automotive voltage ranges or be supported by the automotive software.

That being said, if any of you are interested in getting one of these 8 channel units, I will see about getting a few in stock.

PicoFin wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 10:25am:
this scope has been in their product range for many, many years:


I followed that link and could not find a spec sheet.  However, this I did find:

Quote:
Channel separation is 12-bit and measurement frequency is 100 000 measurements/ second.


That would not be an adequate sample rate for much of anything automotive.

Just saying.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:17pm
 
Tom, there was a time I considered buying an ADAC scope, but I think it was the pricing that took me off it.

As I have mentioned in some previous post of mine, I just accidentally happened to choose a Pico, and the reason to upgrade was just to get a bigger screen than my Fluke 123 provided me with. It was way after I bought the Pico I realized what I got myself into..  Shocked Sometimes you make mistakes, even good ones.
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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 5:52pm
 
PicoFin wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:17pm:
I just accidentally happened to choose a Pico,



PicoFin wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 1:17pm:
Sometimes you make mistakes, even good ones.



That's one mistake I wish I would've made before buying an OTC Solarity so many years ago  Grin.
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Reply #14 - Feb 5th, 2014 at 7:53pm
 
Look on the bright side, Cracker - at least you not on iATN bitchin about so called "Gaps"! I bought a heritage vantage first, I can't believe there was a time where that screen was so impressive to me.
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Reply #15 - Feb 12th, 2014 at 2:41am
 
Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 7:53pm:
I can't believe there was a time where that screen was so impressive to me.


Was that the same era when the earth was considered flat?  Grin Grin

My son, now 10 years old, asked me some years ago if there still were dinosaurs when grandpa was a kid?  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #16 - Feb 12th, 2014 at 3:07am
 
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My son, now 10 years old, asked me some years ago if there still were dinosaurs when grandpa was a kid?  Grin Grin Grin [/quote]

Did you inform him that Grandpa was a dinosaur?  Wink
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Reply #17 - Feb 12th, 2014 at 4:51am
 
I remember when all we had was wood burning computers, how's that for old.
No dinosaurs when I was a youngin'. We had to walk to school in the snow - 10 miles, uphill, both ways.
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Reply #18 - Feb 13th, 2014 at 12:31am
 
Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 12th, 2014 at 4:51am:
10 miles, uphill, both ways


uphill both ways? anywhere near Disney world?
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Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 12th, 2014 at 4:51am:
We had to walk to school in the snow - 10 miles, uphill, both ways.
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That's pretty lean. On top of that, we have headwind and wolves chasing you here in Finland  Wink
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drdiesel1 wrote on Feb 4th, 2014 at 6:34pm:
I have a 10 channel Piovrusvatpro



Dr. tell me more about this, google cant find it, did you spell it right?
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Reply #21 - Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:46am
 
My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess.
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PRESTON wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:46am:
My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess.



You got it, Preston  Smiley
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Reply #24 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 9:16am
 
Any testing running the usb 3.0 on usb 2.0 how much difference in performance between the two?

Probably not suited for automotive ignition or injector control but looks like it could be a good addition to monitor powers,grounds and other lower voltage signals on those real pesky intermittent problems.

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Reply #25 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 6:20pm
 
I might not be reading the specs right, but it looks to me that this thing is technically still better than a MODIS (minus the whole "continuous buffer" thing).  Is the buffer 256MS with all 8 channels running?  When I plug those numbers into the DSO Comparison tool this thing looks fairly impressive.  Great job Pico  Smiley
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drdiesel1 wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:40am:
PRESTON wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:46am:
My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess.



You got it, Preston  Smiley



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Tom Roberts wrote on Feb 5th, 2014 at 8:47am:
or be supported by the automotive software.


Correction....Currently this is supposed to be compatible with the automotive PicoScope but not Pico Diagnostics.  This may not be the case in the future, so I would not depend on that.
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autosparky wrote on Feb 26th, 2014 at 9:54am:
drdiesel1 wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:40am:
PRESTON wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:46am:
My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess.



You got it, Preston  Smiley



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Nevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrr enough toys  Smiley
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