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Mar 18th, 2013 at 1:10am
 
Hi there

Two questions came to mind, while using the WPS after reading the user manual, and I'd rather ask the field than Pico:

-how essential have you found to dismantle the bleeding screw for flushing the unit after each use? i understand you would like to do that if you had engine oil in it, but exhaust, petrol, diesel or air can't be bad, right?

-has anyone yet managed to destroy their WPS accidentally by applying too much pressure? I know it runs out of scale above 500 psi so you can't see on the screen how much there was, but if you destroyed yours (or didn't), with what pressure? Just curious..
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Re: WPS 500 x
Reply #1 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 6:15am
 
PicoFin wrote on Mar 18th, 2013 at 1:10am:
-how essential have you found to dismantle the bleeding screw for flushing the unit after each use?


I did it once because I read the manual and never did it again but I will say if I use it on the fuel rail or coolant I will leave it open and hang the unit straight for a couple of hours to dry out. Smiley

PicoFin wrote on Mar 18th, 2013 at 1:10am:
-has anyone yet managed to destroy their WPS accidentally by applying too much pressure?



Never had to use it on such high pressure maybe because I don't work on diesel's Undecided

If the charge runs out don't use it whilst charging just plug the USB cable into a PC and leave it until the lights go out.
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Reply #2 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 7:28am
 
Hello PicoFin,

Like Mick I leave my bleed screw open to drain and also because I put a quick connect with a check valve in it. I leave the bleed valve open to calibrate so it is accurate to atmosphere.

I used my WPS ONE time on a power steering pump where the psi spiked to over 500.

I would not recommend constant use at these pressures even though there is a built in safety factor to protect unit failure  Wink

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Reply #3 - Mar 19th, 2013 at 10:02pm
 
PicoFin wrote on Mar 18th, 2013 at 1:10am:
how essential have you found to dismantle the bleeding screw for flushing the unit after each use?



WHAT??? I never that part in the manual and I've had mine for 2 years now.
I used it today on a fuel system but I always shake all the fluid out.

Actually what I did with my fuel pressure reading was hook my multi meter to it for a quick test, I'm just too lazy to boot up my laptop Roll Eyes

I haven't bashed my unit around too much but not really happy about the steel case design, it just knocks against everything in the engine bay
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Reply #4 - Mar 19th, 2013 at 10:19pm
 
autosparky wrote on Mar 19th, 2013 at 10:02pm:
not really happy about the steel case design, it just knocks against everything in the engine bay



Perhaps then that makes a case (excuse the pun) for an Autonerdz rubberized protective case to help protect it & vehicle?

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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:06am
 
Exactly what came to mind for me too. Protective rubber case for the WPS, we want!

Smiley


EDIT: actually the idea was so damn good, I emailed it to Pico right away! Let's sit back and wait, and see what happens..?
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Reply #6 - Mar 23rd, 2013 at 5:18pm
 
PicoFin wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:06am:
Protective rubber case for the WPS, we want!


x3  Smiley
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Reply #7 - Mar 24th, 2013 at 4:30am
 
BMW Scott wrote on Mar 23rd, 2013 at 5:18pm:
PicoFin wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:06am:
Protective rubber case for the WPS, we want!


x3  Smiley


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Reply #8 - Mar 24th, 2013 at 9:28pm
 
The answer was that the idea will get forwarded, but first feel is that since the amount of WPS's sold is not by far the same that the number of sold scopes are, it might get too expensive to manufacture due to the small amounts? We'll see..
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Reply #9 - Mar 26th, 2013 at 11:00pm
 
Bet someone in China can make 500 for $1.00 each
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Reply #10 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 2:56pm
 
Just so you know we're paying attention...

Still working things out, but we hope to have these soon.
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Reply #11 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:03pm
 
Brian Haley wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 2:56pm:
Just so you know we're paying attention...Still working things out, but we hope to have these soon.
           
           
                 

Hi Brian,

Thats really cool! did you guys make them? Also are the WPS's still available with turnable Purge valve instead of push style? If so do you have to specify when you order them?

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Reply #12 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:09pm
 
Hi Karl,

These might work with the turn style relief valves, but I don’t have one here to test fit. The WPS is no longer made with the turn style valve.
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Reply #13 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:10pm
 
Hello Brian,

Do you have any specs?

The buttons sure do look like the WPS Smiley

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Reply #14 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:12pm
 
daveyK wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:10pm:
The buttons sure do look like the WPS


It is a WPS500, just has bumpers attached to each end
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Reply #15 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:13pm
 
Brian Haley wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:09pm:
Hi Karl,

These might work with the turn style relief valves, but I don’t have one here to test fit.


I do if you want to send one my way.
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Reply #16 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:38pm
 
Brian,

Will the rubber baby bumpers fit the older WPS?

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Reply #17 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 7:03am
 
daveyK wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 3:38pm:
Will the rubber baby bumpers fit the older WPS?


The pressure release is the only change that has been made to the WPS units. Early units had the turn knob, now they have a button.
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Reply #18 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 7:42am
 
Also, the WPS won't fit in its carry case with these on. The foam would need some trimming.
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Reply #19 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 12:10pm
 
My protective bumpers for my WPS500 arrived this week and I thought I would share a few pictures and thoughts.

They seem to be made of pretty good rubber that would absorb most drops.  Even though they are two separate pieces, they stay on very well so far.  The top one has a cutout for the power button and the bottom one has a cutout on the side for the release valve, but the cutout is a little off.  I plan on trimming it a little more to fit around the release button a little better.  Overall I think its a great idea and am glad to have them.  Any protection I can have to protect my investment is always appreciated.

Thanks Tom and Brian!
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Reply #20 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 1:00pm
 
Oh and I almost forgot.  The top bumper covers the usb charging port, which at first, I wasn't sure if I liked that or not.  But after thinking about it for awhile, I've decided that I am happy about it covering the charging port.  It keeps dust and dirt out of the port and bumper easily slides up enough to charge it.  And besides, I don't know how well it would stay on if it had a cutout for the charging port.
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Reply #21 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 5:45pm
 
When will the protective boots be readily available to purchase?
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Reply #22 - Apr 13th, 2013 at 6:04pm
 
big4x42u wrote on Apr 13th, 2013 at 5:45pm:
When will the protective boots be readily available to purchase?


That's gonna be a question for Tom or Brian, which I'm sure they will see tomorrow or Monday.
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Reply #23 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 7:59am
 
Thanks for the write-up Scott,

Your prototype didn’t have the button hole placed quite right; we've improved the placement to minimize spreading of the bumper in that area.

We felt the same about leaving the charging port covered.

We are hoping to have a batch ready to go this week, $10.00 + $5.00 to ship in a USPS priority flat rate box within the U.S. Priority boxes usually arrive in 2-3 days and we haven’t lost one yet.
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Reply #24 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 8:04am
 

We also poured gasoline on a sample bumper to see what would happen.  They held up just fine...just made them a bit stinky.
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Reply #25 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 8:26am
 
Mine came in over the weekend. Fit is good. I will post pictures later.

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Reply #26 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 1:19pm
 
We have them up sooner than we thought.

http://www.autonerdz.com/wps500.html#wps500boot
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Reply #27 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 5:24pm
 
Brian Haley wrote on Apr 15th, 2013 at 7:59am:
Thanks for the write-up Scott,

Your prototype didn’t have the button hole placed quite right; we've improved the placement to minimize spreading of the bumper in that area.

We felt the same about leaving the charging port covered.


Thanks again for the prototype!  I'm definitely not complaining about the button hole.  Nothing a little exacto knife can't fix.  Smiley
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Reply #28 - Apr 15th, 2013 at 5:56pm
 
Here's how mine looked with the new bumpers. Mine has the turn style release valve. The bumper for this end slide right under it with clearance to spare.

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Reply #29 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 3:10am
 
Well that would have to be one of the quickest responses to a customer idea/request I ever did see !!
Maybe it just needs a little Autonerdz branding stylised into it to finish it up huh Smiley

Well done Tom & co

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Reply #30 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 3:34am
 
Eddie wrote on Apr 16th, 2013 at 3:10am:
Maybe it just needs a little Autonerdz branding stylised into it to finish it up huh


I would be okay if it said Autonerdz on it somewhere.  Wink
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Tom/Brian

What's the UK shipping price on these please ?
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Reply #32 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
One set including shipping to the UK would be $34.00. We can't insure the small USPS boxes, so a bit of a risk for the purchaser. We haven’t lost one yet though.
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Reply #33 - Apr 16th, 2013 at 12:56pm
 
thanks for the reply Brian, i PM'd Tom earlier as i would want 2X sets shipping to the UK, you can answer that if you wish.

I will then have to sort out the payment etc tomorrow some time.

EDIT: Tom has replied thanks.
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Reply #34 - Apr 22nd, 2013 at 1:24am
 
hell I just read the manual and quote "do not operate above 60deg"

so what does this mean for exhaust testing?
I've also been road testing with this thing under the bonnet.

Has anyone destroyed one yet???
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Reply #35 - Apr 22nd, 2013 at 7:55am
 

The 140° F max temp refers to the temperature of the unit itself.  Since exhaust does not flow through it during testing, you should be fine.

We have not seen any damaged by overheating.
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Reply #36 - Aug 16th, 2013 at 12:41pm
 
Tom or Brian,

Is there anymore bumper's? I couldn't find them on the home pg.
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Karl,

Yes we have the WPS bumper caps.  You'll find them here:

http://www.autonerdz.com/wps500.html

Add to cart button just above the photo of the WPS with the caps on.   Wink
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Reply #38 - Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:15pm
 
Tom Roberts wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 1:40pm:
Yes we have the WPS bumper caps.  You'll find them here:


Nice!!

I think its a browser thing again. Thats prob why I couldn't find contest message either
This is what I see
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That page looks correct.  Now to get to the page I linked to click there on the WPS box.  Scroll down to the picture of the WPS sitting on the supercharger.   The buy button for the caps is just above that where it says they are now included in our kits.   Wink
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Tom Roberts wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 3:43pm:
Now to get to the page I linked to click there on the WPS box.


OK, I'm a F%^&en Idiot. That was tough Smiley
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nobbyclrk wrote on Aug 16th, 2013 at 7:54pm:
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Ola, moro no brasil e gostaria de comprar o WPS500.
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Denis_soares wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 9:00am:
la, moro no brasil e gostaria de comprar o WPS500.


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Hello, I live in Brazil and would like to buy WPS500.
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Bevatron wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 10:21am:
TranslationHello, I live in Brazil and would like to buy WPS500.


I would recommend that Denis check to see if his local Pico representative can help with that.
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Reply #46 - Sep 15th, 2013 at 11:07pm
 
I used the WPS today on the fuel pressure regulator and I totally forgot about the zoom function, does anyone bother using it or do you let the Pico software do the zooming?

What about the preset software? who's using the Autonerdz or the Pico? I use Pico
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Re: WPS 500 x
Reply #47 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:42am
 
autosparky wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 11:07pm:
I totally forgot about the zoom function, does anyone bother using it or do you let the Pico software do the zooming?


To be honest I have only tried zooming in the WPS once while playing with it, all the other times I have zoomed in vertically after taking and saving the capture with the picoscope software. Don't think it would matter to much on a fuel pressure regulator diaphragm though.

Just keep in mind once you do zoom in I think you loose the the value of the pressure reading and it works like a first look sensor from what I have read I may be wrong.

autosparky wrote on Sep 15th, 2013 at 11:07pm:
What about the preset software? who's using the Autonerdz or the Pico? I use Pico


I think I seen some where but cant remember where exactly,  where Tom and Brain were saying to stay away from the factory Pico probes for the WPS as it was doing some weird things occasionally. I couldn't tell you if it is still true about the later software builds.

I use the Auto Nerdz presets if that helps.
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Re: WPS 500 x
Reply #48 - Sep 16th, 2013 at 7:26am
 
Anthony Lamb wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:42am:
Just keep in mind once you do zoom in I think you loose the the value of the pressure reading and it works like a first look sensor from what I have read I may be wrong.


Your are correct Anthony

Anthony Lamb wrote on Sep 16th, 2013 at 2:42am:
I use the Auto Nerdz presets if that helps


That's the best advice. Wink
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Reply #49 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 5:34am
 
Thanks Mick I wasn't 100% sure about the zooming Smiley
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Reply #50 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 11:43pm
 
any ideas what goes wrong with the Pico software on the later builds?
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Reply #51 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 3:58am
 
I think it sometimes very rarely displays some anomalies that aren't actually present and worse with a running compression waves.
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Re: WPS 500 x
Reply #52 - Sep 18th, 2013 at 8:21am
 
autosparky wrote on Sep 17th, 2013 at 11:43pm:
any ideas what goes wrong with the Pico software on the later builds?


Anthony Lamb wrote on Sep 18th, 2013 at 3:58am:
I think it sometimes very rarely displays some anomalies that aren't actually present and worse with a running compression waves.


These are discussions best suited for the Picogroup areas of the boards.  Obviously we would need specific details for what you are experiencing.

For odd WPS behavior you might want to read this thread:

http://www.autonerdz.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1372443520
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