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Hello all new to this site been doing alot of research and stumbled here. I am wanting a new scanner have an older genysis still works but needs some updateing was thinking of getting the pegysis that comes with a 2 channel scope. Now that I am here I am thinking that might not be my best choice. I only have enough cash for one or the other also if Pico is the resounding answer. Would a 2 or 4 channel be my best best? Thanks in advance for all your help

Hello!
I agree with Karl, and that is exactly what I did - just hung on and waited until I had the means to buy the 4 channel. From a learning stand point it makes no difference, the 4 channel is not more "complicated", just more channels to use as required. Ditto for buying it through Tom for the Autonerdz support, the amount of things these scopes will do makes coming back to the forums for training, the waveform database etc, and just the "Ureka" momonents that
come from reading on here worth every cent.
-Ward-

My opinion is the scanner will be dependent on what you service most.  If there is a ton of one make that is serviced checking out a factory scan tool for that would probably cost less than the Pegisys and allow to be worlds ahead in ability.

For a overall decent aftermarket scanner for domestic and some Asian, I have had good luck with the Snap On Solus pro I don't think it can be purchased new anymore (Solus ultra now) but it has treated me pretty well.  If you are willing to give up bidirectional controls the Snap On Ethos might be worth checking out as well.

A scope from Tom in either the 2ch or 4ch would be the way to go.  A 2 channel scope can work but the trick is to be very selective about what signal to select.  To compare relationships the bare minimum of channels is 2.  I have a couple of 2 ch's and a 4 ch I would say overall the 4 ch is easier to use since much more can be observed at once.

If the budget only allows a 2ch a 4ch could always be added later on.  That is what I did and in a few rare situations I have all my Pico's hooked up.

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.

Sam

As far as I'm concerned both a quality scanner and a quality scope are vital.

4 channel is worth the extra cost.


I wouldn't bother with the pegysis. The scope is just ok, and the scanner is just.... ok. It is slow to connect and very bulky. We have both genysis and the pegysis at work, the genysis can do everything the pegysis does.

If you can't afford a 4ch yet, put it off and keep saving.      
I learned (am learning) with a 4ch turd as some people like to call it (but there are no scanner scope combos on the market for what I paid for my modis, nor could I have bought a scanner and scope for the price either).
I think had I bought 2 ch I would have become frustrated with it very fast.
I've had a number of jobs where the third and even 4th channels were vital.


Also from my experience If you have a scanner that will cover your scanner needs, by a pico kit from here.
If you need a new scanner to fill some gaps and you can cover those gaps with a scanner scope combo, then get the combo.
Almost any scope is better then no scope at all.  Most people here will tell you that as far as hand held scopes go Snap-ons product is about as good as it gets. 
There are some people that will just regurgitate the turd line over and over without taking your individual situation into account.

kicksbutt wrote on Mar 10^th, 2013 at 11:42am:




I believe you have made a wise choice.

Hey Scott.

While I agree with you 100% about scope and scanner being shop tools, sadly that is not always the way it pans out.

Like many techs, I provide my own scope, aftermarket scan tools and a couple OEs for what I work on the most.

I pay for it by subletting all programing and special functions the shops normally couldn't perform back to them.

I am a little fellow working out of my garage right now. trying to get my own thing going so money is a issue as always. also I seem to be a sucker for hard cases that people can't afford to fix or some other shop wants to take advantage of a situation and don't really fix the problem. I feel for the people and end up not getting paid what I should. which adds to the money issues. its a vicious little circle. drives my wife crazy but at least I can sleep at night. most of the time that is