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http://www.autonerdz.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1094423353 heres one for you rob 

ps. i'm not biting this time rob, but for some reason you seem to get envolved in discusion ask to many questions and dont give enough constructive answers. only my view and as ive said to you before, possibly in a more agresive manor tbh, hence the reason we butted heads in the past. this is water under the bridge and i'm not holding a grudge 

Kenny,
You've raised some interesting points here. As someone very new to scopes I appreciate all the advice and help I can get, I understand it's a learning curve.
I have noticed that rob likes to picks holes in practically everything I say, he never gives straight simple answers and comes across as not been very friendly ( or maybe its just me?) I'm pretty sure at some point not so long ago he was also new to this and also liked to ask questions...
At the end of the day we are all here to learn. The new guys and the pro's. In today's motor industry we need to stick together and exchange experiences, as far as I'm concerned... That's how we learn the most.
This is in no way a dig at you rob, I have been biting my tongue on here and on the uk pico forum but please snap out out it, I'm sure one day you will want some advice or more importantly someones opinion.
I have come here to learn from my new purchase and have really enjoyed using it for the past few weeks, I know I have a lot to learn but hopefully this forum and the uk pico forum can help me out greatly.
Let's just get on and move on from this. 

Russ

fisher wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:


We try to avoid that and let the natural consequences take care of things.  It's worked very well for over eight years with one notable exception.

As stated in the link posted by Kenny...

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It's amazing how effective that is but everyone has to be on the same page for it to work.   

fisher wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:


Why would that be Fisher, because i have challenged someones methods ?
GRUSS wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 3:22pm:


No dig taken Gruss, don't forget i'm on the public section & certain "Pico group" members don't like too much info in this section & ask for such to be posted in the group section, so it works both ways there !

I could not understand why you had not forced the O2 sensor rich & lean to watch its reaction whilst still on the car,in my eyes you had no real proof it was defective & went & bought another.

kennyp wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 1:36pm:


Same applies above Kenny 

PS if i help anybody on a forum that isn't just for trade it is done by PM & for which i have my reasons.

Hi GRUSS, First, I can tell you that any original O2 sensor from a '90 move is certain to be dead. They do exactly what you showed in the first couple of captures, where it stays flat-lined, very near 0v no matter what you do, or they have very little response on a snap throttle test. These old Daihatsus, and the other kei's for that matter, don't enter closed loop and will stay pretty flat around .4v until you get it off idle. All of your captures are exactly what I see before and after, and I've done plenty of them. With the kei's, it dramatically improves gas mileage and performance.

Cost new for one of these old one-wire OEM sensors is around US$300-400.

Cheers,
Matt