Hi everyone, I saw another interesting video by Dan Sullivan.  Everyone take a look and let me know what your thoughts are.
http://youtu.be/ir3FLhP5URQ

Thanks for the link, I do enjoy Dan 's material.

I bought one of his books and use it for reference quite often, I also have the Red Load Pro leads and use them often. Although you must be careful as to what circuits you are loading.

I did notice the leads he was using in the video were Blue Point I thought Blue point and Snap-on were kinda the same? ?

Anyway I wish him well on his fight against the mighty SO. I do think he has a good point though.

Yes Blue Point comes from Snap ON.  I too wish Dan the best.  A great guy and Instructor.  The guys at the shop I work at are already asking me if Dan will be coming back to teach the advanced class. :)

Ok I'm trying to figure out the deal here. Dan Sullivan designed the red lead load pro in 1999...patented it in 2001. Tried to get snap-on to sale it for him but was turned down around 2008?

Snap-on copies it painted it blue, put bluepoint on it , called it a ecct180. Starts sale of it sometime after 2008 I'm guessing.

Just recently started sale of the ect400 (voltmeter inside of a testlight) which looks like Dan is correct about (loads the circuit, but is useless to the operator).

Will be interesting to see how this delima unfolds....but if SO stops saleing the (Blue) tool they obviously copied then that will just mean more sales for the (red) original design for Sullivan :-?

Actually Danny I believe Dan said they have some sort of arrangement where they are selling his tool, they just made it blue and put the blue point name on it.  I believe Dan says this in the video link I posted.  Needless to say this is a confusing dilemma. 

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Needless to say this is a confusing dilemma

Ok yea.. I guess I'm confused about some key points..Sullivan said he made multiple attempts to get SO to produce and sale the tool..and was told no it doesn't work.
, but if that's true why did they agree to sale it under whatever arrangement you're talking about he mentioned in the video in the first place?


I guess it all boils down to :  It sounds like he got the bronze plan and wanted the gold :D

I have the loadpro (sullivans red designed). Works great. I hope this doesn't back fire on him. I can see how he is frustrated over SO saleing a tool that confuses techs in the field (talking about the voltmeter in a test light deal). :-?

I'm not understanding either why SO made the test light either.  He is correct about it not working.  I tested out a mac tools version and it doesn't work either.  For it to work you have to have everything connected in the circuit.  With the tool looking like a test lamp this is going to confuse technicians.  I put a 10 ohm resistor in line with the Mac test light and the tool showed no drop in voltage.  It only shows a drop with high resistance. 

   I have a load pro and a SO ect 400. Both good tools but not the same kind of tool!
  I do not see what dan is complaining about because I would never use the ect 400 for voltage drop or trust it for a diag. on a big $ repair job.
  I look at the ect 400 as a toy a cool test lite with a 1/2 a#$ volt meter.  nothing moor!
  I think Dan is going over board with this But I could be wrong!
  But then the average tech on this site is way above the average. On things electrical   

Top4, I think Dan is mainly concerned about Techs not realizing that in order to use it properly you have to treat it like a voltmeter and not a test lamp.  Does the instructions in the manual tell you this?  The tool does look handy, you just have to know how to use it. :)

One more thing I would like to add in my opinion is Dan is trying to get Techs to realize is that if you learn how to read a dvom you can obtain a lot more diagnostic information from it instead of just using a test lamp.  Dan is a good guy and means well, hopefully a solution will surface for his predicament.

  Busjockey. I did not read the book that came with it if it had any at all.
I agree that dan is a good guy trying to help us all. I think his book on electrical diag. is worth much moor then the cost.