Local Pico dealer called me today for a chat, he said there is a strong rumour Pico may release a 8 channel scope.
Anyone interested in this? me personally hell yeah

You heard anything Tom?

autosparky wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 12:42am:

Anyone interested in this?

My SO dealer came and said something like that as well. I told him he was full of crap.
I may be wrong.

I'd by one just to say I had one  :)

I like your way of thinking, Preston.
You are, officially, a "Tool Whore"!
I've been called this also, but I don't know
if I'd buy just to say I had one.
But boy would I be trying to rationalize it!
-Ward-

Software would probably not be an issue, currently using reference waveforms up to eight channels can be put on one screen.  So, it seems possible.

So does a 212 + 3223 + 4423 = an 8 channel scope? ;D

Don't laugh too hard, I have had all 3 going on few occasions.

Sam

We have a company in Finland that supplies the field with training and equipment. Actually, these guys are the ones that trained me to the status of "automotive electrician", as a sloppy translation.

They also have a few own products, this scope has been in their product range for many, many years:

http://www.hmv-systems.fi/adac3000/

Not that this has got anything to do with the Pico rumour.

Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 5:07am:

but I don't know if I'd buy just to say I had one.

  Well, I would use it too.  I should have clarified that  :)

I have a 10 channel Piovrusvatpro  [smiley=maglass.gif] [smiley=nerd.gif]

I wouldn't doubt they might make one, but my bet would be that it would be for the Test & Measurement side, not so much Automotive.   :-/

A complication of double the set of channels would be the display on the screen with eight y axis and eight traces...much bigger and higher resolution screen.

I'm running 19" now on my laptop now......

In saying that I would love to be able to interface with eight or ten channels as opposed to BMWs one..hahahahahah....Master Tech indeed  ;D

I would like 2 x 4 channels if they can be synchronized though the computers time clock, so that they would operate in syncrony.

Logic wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 11:33pm:

A complication of double the set of channels would be the display on the screen with eight y axis and eight traces...much bigger and higher resolution screen. I'm running 19" now on my laptop now......

Logic,

Below is an example of what an eight channel Pico capture might look like.  With out going into specifics it is possible to manipulate each channel vertical by a zoom or reduce.  It is also possible to run separate windows. So, I would guess if Pico does build one, screen display will be a minimal issue, if it is an issue at all.

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crackerclicker wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:57pm:

but my bet would be that it would be for the Test & Measurement side, not so much Automotive.

We have a winner.   ;)

We have been aware of this one for a few weeks.  We don't always hear of the new test and measurement scopes ahead of launch but this one we did. 

Pico gives distributors advance information on new products as long as they don't spoil the surprise by going public with the information in advance of the launch date.  It's unfortunate that someone entrusted with this information didn't take their responsibility seriously.  It sure wasn't anyone here at Autonerdz.

Now that the cat is out of the bag, we have been given permission to confirm this rumor.

As a test and measurement scope, this one will not be well suited for automotive applications.  It will not have the same protection against short circuits resulting from ground loops nor will it have automotive voltage ranges or be supported by the automotive software.

That being said, if any of you are interested in getting one of these 8 channel units, I will see about getting a few in stock.


PicoFin wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 10:25am:

this scope has been in their product range for many, many years:

I followed that link and could not find a spec sheet.  However, this I did find:


Quote:

Channel separation is 12-bit and measurement frequency is 100 000 measurements/ second.

That would not be an adequate sample rate for much of anything automotive.

Just saying.   ::)

Tom, there was a time I considered buying an ADAC scope, but I think it was the pricing that took me off it.

As I have mentioned in some previous post of mine, I just accidentally happened to choose a Pico, and the reason to upgrade was just to get a bigger screen than my Fluke 123 provided me with. It was way after I bought the Pico I realized what I got myself into..  :o Sometimes you make mistakes, even good ones.

PicoFin wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 1:17pm:

I just accidentally happened to choose a Pico,

PicoFin wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 1:17pm:

Sometimes you make mistakes, even good ones.

That's one mistake I wish I would've made before buying an OTC Solarity so many years ago  ;D.

Look on the bright side, Cracker - at least you not on iATN bitchin about so called "Gaps"! I bought a heritage vantage first, I can't believe there was a time where that screen was so impressive to me.

Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 7:53pm:

I can't believe there was a time where that screen was so impressive to me.

Was that the same era when the earth was considered flat?  ;D ;D

My son, now 10 years old, asked me some years ago if there still were dinosaurs when grandpa was a kid?  ;D ;D ;D

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My son, now 10 years old, asked me some years ago if there still were dinosaurs when grandpa was a kid?  ;D ;D ;D[/quote]

Did you inform him that Grandpa was a dinosaur?  ;)

I remember when all we had was wood burning computers, how's that for old.
No dinosaurs when I was a youngin'. We had to walk to school in the snow - 10 miles, uphill, both ways.
-Ward-

Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 4:51am:

10 miles, uphill, both ways

uphill both ways? anywhere near Disney world?

Ward Zintel wrote on Feb 12^th, 2014 at 4:51am:

We had to walk to school in the snow - 10 miles, uphill, both ways. -Ward-

That's pretty lean. On top of that, we have headwind and wolves chasing you here in Finland  ;)

drdiesel1 wrote on Feb 4^th, 2014 at 6:34pm:

I have a 10 channel Piovrusvatpro

Dr. tell me more about this, google cant find it, did you spell it right?

My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess.

PRESTON wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 6:46am:

My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess.

You got it, Preston  [smiley=thumbsup2.gif]

http://www.picotech.com/picoscope4824overview.html

Any testing running the usb 3.0 on usb 2.0 how much difference in performance between the two?

Probably not suited for automotive ignition or injector control but looks like it could be a good addition to monitor powers,grounds and other lower voltage signals on those real pesky intermittent problems.

Sam

I might not be reading the specs right, but it looks to me that this thing is technically still better than a MODIS (minus the whole "continuous buffer" thing).  Is the buffer 256MS with all 8 channels running?  When I plug those numbers into the DSO Comparison tool this thing looks fairly impressive.  Great job Pico  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

drdiesel1 wrote on Feb 16^th, 2014 at 11:40am:

PRESTON wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:46am: My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess. You got it, Preston  [smiley=thumbsup2.gif]

far too many toys Dr Diesel

Tom Roberts wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 8:47am:

or be supported by the automotive software.

Correction....Currently this is supposed to be compatible with the automotive PicoScope but not Pico Diagnostics.  This may not be the case in the future, so I would not depend on that.

autosparky wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 9:54am:

drdiesel1 wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 11:40am: PRESTON wrote on Feb 16th, 2014 at 6:46am: My interpretation was that he smushed Pico, Verus, Vantage, and pro together.  Meaning he just uses multiple scopes to acquire more channels.  Just a guess. You got it, Preston  [smiley=thumbsup2.gif] far too many toys Dr Diesel

Nevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrr enough toys  [smiley=woohoo.gif]