Hi there

Two questions came to mind, while using the WPS after reading the user manual, and I'd rather ask the field than Pico:

-how essential have you found to dismantle the bleeding screw for flushing the unit after each use? i understand you would like to do that if you had engine oil in it, but exhaust, petrol, diesel or air can't be bad, right?

-has anyone yet managed to destroy their WPS accidentally by applying too much pressure? I know it runs out of scale above 500 psi so you can't see on the screen how much there was, but if you destroyed yours (or didn't), with what pressure? Just curious..

PicoFin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 1:10am:

-how essential have you found to dismantle the bleeding screw for flushing the unit after each use?

I did it once because I read the manual and never did it again but I will say if I use it on the fuel rail or coolant I will leave it open and hang the unit straight for a couple of hours to dry out. :)


PicoFin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 1:10am:

-has anyone yet managed to destroy their WPS accidentally by applying too much pressure?

Never had to use it on such high pressure maybe because I don't work on diesel's :-/

If the charge runs out don't use it whilst charging just plug the USB cable into a PC and leave it until the lights go out.

Hello PicoFin,

Like Mick I leave my bleed screw open to drain and also because I put a quick connect with a check valve in it. I leave the bleed valve open to calibrate so it is accurate to atmosphere.

I used my WPS ONE time on a power steering pump where the psi spiked to over 500.

I would not recommend constant use at these pressures even though there is a built in safety factor to protect unit failure  ;)

HTH

PicoFin wrote on Mar 18^th, 2013 at 1:10am:

how essential have you found to dismantle the bleeding screw for flushing the unit after each use?

WHAT??? I never that part in the manual and I've had mine for 2 years now.
I used it today on a fuel system but I always shake all the fluid out.

Actually what I did with my fuel pressure reading was hook my multi meter to it for a quick test, I'm just too lazy to boot up my laptop ::)

I haven't bashed my unit around too much but not really happy about the steel case design, it just knocks against everything in the engine bay

autosparky wrote on Mar 19^th, 2013 at 10:02pm:

not really happy about the steel case design, it just knocks against everything in the engine bay

Perhaps then that makes a case (excuse the pun) for an Autonerdz rubberized protective case to help protect it & vehicle?

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Exactly what came to mind for me too. Protective rubber case for the WPS, we want!

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EDIT: actually the idea was so damn good, I emailed it to Pico right away! Let's sit back and wait, and see what happens..?

PicoFin wrote on Mar 20^th, 2013 at 4:06am:

Protective rubber case for the WPS, we want!

x3  [smiley=thumbsup2.gif]

BMW Scott wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2013 at 5:18pm:

PicoFin wrote on Mar 20th, 2013 at 4:06am: Protective rubber case for the WPS, we want! x3  [smiley=thumbsup2.gif]

+4

The answer was that the idea will get forwarded, but first feel is that since the amount of WPS's sold is not by far the same that the number of sold scopes are, it might get too expensive to manufacture due to the small amounts? We'll see..

Bet someone in China can make 500 for $1.00 each

Just so you know we're paying attention...

Still working things out, but we hope to have these soon.

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Brian Haley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 2:56pm:

Just so you know we're paying attention...Still working things out, but we hope to have these soon.

Hi Brian,

Thats really cool! did you guys make them? Also are the WPS's still available with turnable Purge valve instead of push style? If so do you have to specify when you order them?

Thanks
Karl

Hi Karl,

These might work with the turn style relief valves, but I don’t have one here to test fit. The WPS is no longer made with the turn style valve.

Hello Brian,

Do you have any specs?

The buttons sure do look like the WPS :)

Thanks

daveyK wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 3:10pm:

The buttons sure do look like the WPS

It is a WPS500, just has bumpers attached to each end

Brian Haley wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 3:09pm:

Hi Karl, These might work with the turn style relief valves, but I don’t have one here to test fit.

I do if you want to send one my way.

Brian,

Will the rubber baby bumpers fit the older WPS?

Thanks

daveyK wrote on Apr 4^th, 2013 at 3:38pm:

Will the rubber baby bumpers fit the older WPS?

The pressure release is the only change that has been made to the WPS units. Early units had the turn knob, now they have a button.

Also, the WPS won't fit in its carry case with these on. The foam would need some trimming.

My protective bumpers for my WPS500 arrived this week and I thought I would share a few pictures and thoughts.

They seem to be made of pretty good rubber that would absorb most drops.  Even though they are two separate pieces, they stay on very well so far.  The top one has a cutout for the power button and the bottom one has a cutout on the side for the release valve, but the cutout is a little off.  I plan on trimming it a little more to fit around the release button a little better.  Overall I think its a great idea and am glad to have them.  Any protection I can have to protect my investment is always appreciated.

Thanks Tom and Brian!

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Oh and I almost forgot.  The top bumper covers the usb charging port, which at first, I wasn't sure if I liked that or not.  But after thinking about it for awhile, I've decided that I am happy about it covering the charging port.  It keeps dust and dirt out of the port and bumper easily slides up enough to charge it.  And besides, I don't know how well it would stay on if it had a cutout for the charging port.

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When will the protective boots be readily available to purchase?

big4x42u wrote on Apr 13^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

When will the protective boots be readily available to purchase?

That's gonna be a question for Tom or Brian, which I'm sure they will see tomorrow or Monday.

Thanks for the write-up Scott,

Your prototype didn’t have the button hole placed quite right; we've improved the placement to minimize spreading of the bumper in that area.

We felt the same about leaving the charging port covered.

We are hoping to have a batch ready to go this week, $10.00 + $5.00 to ship in a USPS priority flat rate box within the U.S. Priority boxes usually arrive in 2-3 days and we haven’t lost one yet.

We also poured gasoline on a sample bumper to see what would happen.  They held up just fine...just made them a bit stinky. 

Mine came in over the weekend. Fit is good. I will post pictures later.

We have them up sooner than we thought.

http://www.autonerdz.com/wps500.html#wps500boot

Brian Haley wrote on Apr 15^th, 2013 at 7:59am:

Thanks for the write-up Scott, Your prototype didn’t have the button hole placed quite right; we've improved the placement to minimize spreading of the bumper in that area. We felt the same about leaving the charging port covered.

Thanks again for the prototype!  I'm definitely not complaining about the button hole.  Nothing a little exacto knife can't fix.  [smiley=wink.gif]

Here's how mine looked with the new bumpers. Mine has the turn style release valve. The bumper for this end slide right under it with clearance to spare.

Thanks

Spence

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Well that would have to be one of the quickest responses to a customer idea/request I ever did see !!
Maybe it just needs a little Autonerdz branding stylised into it to finish it up huh :-)

Well done Tom & co

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Eddie wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 3:10am:

Maybe it just needs a little Autonerdz branding stylised into it to finish it up huh

I would be okay if it said Autonerdz on it somewhere.  ;)

Tom/Brian

What's the UK shipping price on these please ?

One set including shipping to the UK would be $34.00. We can't insure the small USPS boxes, so a bit of a risk for the purchaser. We haven’t lost one yet though.

thanks for the reply Brian, i PM'd Tom earlier as i would want 2X sets shipping to the UK, you can answer that if you wish.

I will then have to sort out the payment etc tomorrow some time.

EDIT: Tom has replied thanks.

hell I just read the manual and quote "do not operate above 60deg"

so what does this mean for exhaust testing?
I've also been road testing with this thing under the bonnet.

Has anyone destroyed one yet???

The 140° F max temp refers to the temperature of the unit itself.  Since exhaust does not flow through it during testing, you should be fine.

We have not seen any damaged by overheating.

Tom or Brian,

Is there anymore bumper's? I couldn't find them on the home pg.

Karl,

Yes we have the WPS bumper caps.  You'll find them here:

http://www.autonerdz.com/wps500.html

Add to cart button just above the photo of the WPS with the caps on.   ;)

Tom Roberts wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 1:40pm:

Yes we have the WPS bumper caps.  You'll find them here:

Nice!!

I think its a browser thing again. Thats prob why I couldn't find contest message either
This is what I see
Thank you too!!

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That page looks correct.  Now to get to the page I linked to click there on the WPS box.  Scroll down to the picture of the WPS sitting on the supercharger.   The buy button for the caps is just above that where it says they are now included in our kits.   ;)

Tom Roberts wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 3:43pm:

Now to get to the page I linked to click there on the WPS box.

OK, I'm a F%^&en Idiot. That was tough [smiley=banghead.gif]

Quote:

OK, I'm a F%^&en Idiot

Spell check must be still busted.

nobbyclrk wrote on Aug 16^th, 2013 at 7:54pm:

Spell check must be still busted.

  HA HA HA HA LOL  [smiley=laughing1.gif] [smiley=laughing2.gif] [smiley=laughing1.gif]

  Now THAT is funny!

Ola, moro no brasil e gostaria de comprar o WPS500.

Denis_soares wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 9:00am:

la, moro no brasil e gostaria de comprar o WPS500.

Translation

Hello, I live in Brazil and would like to buy WPS500.

Bevatron wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 10:21am:

TranslationHello, I live in Brazil and would like to buy WPS500.

I would recommend that Denis check to see if his local Pico representative can help with that.

I used the WPS today on the fuel pressure regulator and I totally forgot about the zoom function, does anyone bother using it or do you let the Pico software do the zooming?

What about the preset software? who's using the Autonerdz or the Pico? I use Pico

autosparky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 11:07pm:

I totally forgot about the zoom function, does anyone bother using it or do you let the Pico software do the zooming?

To be honest I have only tried zooming in the WPS once while playing with it, all the other times I have zoomed in vertically after taking and saving the capture with the picoscope software. Don't think it would matter to much on a fuel pressure regulator diaphragm though.

Just keep in mind once you do zoom in I think you loose the the value of the pressure reading and it works like a first look sensor from what I have read I may be wrong.


autosparky wrote on Sep 15^th, 2013 at 11:07pm:

What about the preset software? who's using the Autonerdz or the Pico? I use Pico

I think I seen some where but cant remember where exactly,  where Tom and Brain were saying to stay away from the factory Pico probes for the WPS as it was doing some weird things occasionally. I couldn't tell you if it is still true about the later software builds.

I use the Auto Nerdz presets if that helps.

Anthony Lamb wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 2:42am:

Just keep in mind once you do zoom in I think you loose the the value of the pressure reading and it works like a first look sensor from what I have read I may be wrong.

Your are correct Anthony


Anthony Lamb wrote on Sep 16^th, 2013 at 2:42am:

I use the Auto Nerdz presets if that helps

That's the best advice. ;)

Thanks Mick I wasn't 100% sure about the zooming :)

any ideas what goes wrong with the Pico software on the later builds?

I think it sometimes very rarely displays some anomalies that aren't actually present and worse with a running compression waves.

autosparky wrote on Sep 17^th, 2013 at 11:43pm:

any ideas what goes wrong with the Pico software on the later builds?

Anthony Lamb wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 3:58am:

I think it sometimes very rarely displays some anomalies that aren't actually present and worse with a running compression waves.

These are discussions best suited for the Picogroup areas of the boards.  Obviously we would need specific details for what you are experiencing.

For odd WPS behavior you might want to read this thread:

http://www.autonerdz.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1372443520